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The Noetic Society is a 501(c)(3) non-profit group with members in Southern California and around the world, who have been inspired to study Homer, Parmenides, the pre-Socratics, Plato, the neo-Platonists, and other perennial philosophers and mystics, not for academic reasons, but for personal spiritual growth. The society was founded by Pierre Grimes, PhD in 1967, and was incorporated in 1978.



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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp3 Sections: 155e (P1), 156c,d (P12-13,P15-16,P18) Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, KevinG, Jed, JeffS [Recording was a bit muffled today, as I had forgotten to bring my good Marantz PMD661 recorder and had only my old iRiver H320 as a backup. Thank you for your patience. And thank goodness we were at Regina's (quiet background), and not in a noisy restaurant. Also (as you'll see, below) I petered out on the note-taking in the 2nd half -- am...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp1 (Parmenides); Book 5 (Proclus) Sections: 138a-138d (P17-P30) (Parmenides); 978 (Proclus) Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, JulieH, Regina, Eldar, Kevin Barbara's email about this Hi, all, Pierre, I, Julie H., Regina, and Eldar were present. Kevin came in at the very end but didn't participate in the discussion. There were charts. I don't know if they've been sent. (I'm trying to let people take on the responsibility and the glory for themselves) Pierre asked if...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp1 Sections: 141e,142a (P99-P103); 137c-138b (P1-P19) Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, Eldar, JulieH, JeffS Synopsis We begin again with re-reading the 1st hypothesis of Plato's dialogue, Parmenides . First, however, Regina asks a question about P99-103. The main issues we get into in the 2nd part are: the unlimited-ness of the One (and therefore of the Self), with the physical analogues of straightness and circularity how Parmenides' pattern of dialectic...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another morning of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read Book 3, Chapter 2 and the beginning of 3. Attendees Pierre, JulieH, Regina, David More Info (*) Proclus' Theology of Plato (Thomas Taylor translation): Volume Eight in the Thomas Taylor series,...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another morning of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read Book 4, Chapters 12 and 13. Attendees Pierre, Barbara, Regina, JulieH More Info (*) Proclus' Theology of Plato (Thomas Taylor translation): Volume Eight in the Thomas Taylor series, ISBN-10:...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another morning of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read through Chapters 20 and 21 of Book 4. At the end we returned to Chapter 14 for elucidation of “paternal port”. Attendees Pierre, Barbara, Eldar, David, JulieH, Regina More Info (*) Proclus'...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, theology-of-plato, proclus, book04, chap20, chap21
Original Location https://archive.org/details/20190710NSPRM Usage License CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 International License Please Help Support the Project Like these videos? Please consider supporting Pierre, the NS, and our archiving activity by giving a small amount monthly to support our work. Go to noeticsociety.org and the 'Support the Project' section. Look for the Paypal or other link. We'd love it if you chose to 'Make this a monthly donation', as well -- rather than just one-time -- in whatever...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, timaeus, parmenides
Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we compare Book 6, Chap 22 (written by Proclus) and Book 7, Chap 1 (written by Thomas Taylor, since Proclus' original Book 7 had been lost). (Doing this had been our 'homework' for today.) This was our...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, theology-of-plato, book06, chap22, book07, chap01, proclus,...
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Synopsis Another fun Saturday morning with Pierre. We warmed up with a little politics, and a discussion of how to break people (especially Trump-ites, but also entire societies) out of their heavy “belief” states. Then we dive into two dream explorations with JulieH and Eldar. (I was exhausted, so again, just an audio and some snapshots today, no video.) JulieH's dream exploration starts at about 0:34:15 (where I deleted about 10 minutes of silence while Pierre and the group read over her...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, NSDRM
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Sections: 142d-143c Attendees: Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg Image, Pretty Autumn Trees courtesy of Stanley Zimny. Downloaded from Flickr on Oct 19, 2016, at which time it was listed as having been published there under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 Generic (CC BY-SA 2.0) license. Thank you, Stanley!
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: plg Sections: 129a 129b 129c 129d 129e 130a Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Bradley Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg Image, Goal Metal Old Ornament , courtesy of Flickr user SeppH under a Creative Commons Public Domain CC0 deed when downloaded on 2017-02-23.
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp4 Sections: 157b-d Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, JulieH, Eldar 155e 3rd hyp, P1. hoti (ὅτι) = "because"? Barbara researched it since. More like a "that" 157bc - 4th hyp New Goal for next few meetings: To proceed sequentially (hyp's 4,5,6,7,8,9), comparing and relating the hypotheses. How he talks about the introduction to each of the hyp's. Must 5 follow from 4? Why is it called the 4th? And how does it relate to the preceeding?...
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Dialogue(s): theology-of-plato;elements-of-theology Chapters: book01;chap22;prop30;prop31 Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, JulieH, Nancy (at the end) Synopsis Pierre leads our NS Parmenides morning study group through a reading of Proclus' Theology of Plato (*). This morning we are still on Book 1, Chapter 22 of the Theology, and a translation of the word, "principle" takes us into a reading of propositions 30, 31, and others, of Proclus' Elements of Theology(+) . Note from Barbara Hi,...
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Dialogue(s): theology-of-plato Chapters: 13 Sections: 61-62 Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, Eldar, JeffS Synopsis Pierre leads our Parmenides morning study group through chapter 13, sections 61-62 of Proclus' Theology of Plato (*). Highlights what must something have in order to receive Providence? no word for 'thing' in Greek back to chapter 13, section 61-62 on incorporeal things no sense/input apparatus Motion - that which is passive (corporeal bodies, matter) has no motion Participation...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp3 Sections: 156b 156c 156d 156e 157a 157b Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Nancy, Bradley, Yoni, JeffS Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg
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Dialogue(s): parmenides;elements-of-theology Chapters: hyp2;prop177;prop059 Sections: 155d Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, JulieH, Eldar, Josh, (Jed and JeffS arrived late) [Parmenides study proper starts at 53:56, when Pierre challenges us to see how Parmenides needs Time (in the 2nd hyp sense, i.e., starting at 151e) in order to reach the final conclusion (of hyp2) regarding Knowledge, Opinion, and Perception of the Self (at P237, 155d).] 0:00:00 Barbara wonders about the word...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Sections: 155d (P237), 154e (P231), 155c (P233), 154d-155d (P228-P234) Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, Nancy, JulieH, Eldar, Jed, JeffS Continuing (from Monday ) with doxa (δόξα) at P237/155d: Trying to find it in the 2nd hypothesis. Why/how can he use it here? What did he do in the 2nd hyp that qualifies? Besides "opinion", Doxa could also be "belief", "appearance", "reputation", "expectation", or...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read Book 6, Chapter 23. We start from the 2nd paragraph on page 459 (Prometheus Trust edition of the Thomas Taylor translation), and go to the end of the chapter. Attendees Pierre, David, Eldar,...
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Original Location https://archive.org/details/20190705NSPRM Usage License CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 International License Please Help Support the Project Like these videos? Please consider supporting Pierre, the NS, and our archiving activity by giving a small amount monthly to support our work. Go to noeticsociety.org and the 'Support the Project' section. Look for the Paypal or other link. We'd love it if you chose to 'Make this a monthly donation', as well -- rather than just one-time -- in whatever...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, theology-of-plato, book05, chap22, chap23, proclus
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read Book 6, Chapter 2. From Barbara: Pierre added to the 11-6 Chart but made no other. We read and discussed our way through Chapter 2 barring one question from Regina about Chapter 1. P.S. -...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Sections: 143a 143b 143c 143d Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Eldar Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg "
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: plg Sections: 132d Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, Nancy, JulieH, JeffS Regina's request for clarification of the argument leading up to the infinite regress. Discussion of "assimilation". What is a paradigm (model)? - That from which everything else can be deduced / inferred. Unpacking Logos. Why Parm. does not refer to Logos yet. Because Socrates still has a problem with Self, and can't have Logos without Self. Working from Plato's Parmenides:...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp5 Sections: 159b 159c 159d Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Eldar, Alex P1 / 159b The biggest problem in the 5th is to keep a straight face while you read the 1st line.. Does this first line indicate a different 'One'? Or not? Does function determine nature? P2 Similarity with the 3rd and 4th. P3 χωρὶς - 'parallel'? separate, distinct? Can 'others' be parallel to 'one'? Barbara: lexicon: different, apart-from (locationally, spatially). In...
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Dialogue(s): republic Chapters: book01 Sections: 327a-331d Text/translation used: W.H.D. Rouse, transl., "Great Dialogues of Plato". Topics Covered, Audio Highlights, and Notes Starting Book 01 of Plato's "The Republic". Pierre leads the NS through a series of questions designed to help us understand what is really going on as Book 1 opens and Socrates is 'kidnapped' (an act of injustice) to go down to the Piraeus, to Cephalus' house. They convince Socrates to stay and ......
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, republic, book01, republic-nights
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Stephanos sections: 128e,129a-e Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Nancy, Brad Barbara's Notes: Hi, all we worked on 128E Zeno's comment and we made reference to Soc's speech at 129E. Pierre made an interesting discovery about esoteric doctrines at the Panathenaia. Jeff's Notes: 128E PG says he is puzzled by Zeno's response. Zeno is explaining why he is divulging this work. He has a very interesting expression in what he is doing. It starts with the great word, "therefore"....
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Stephanos sections: 61d 61e 62a 62b 62c 62d 62e Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Josh, Eldar, Nancy, JulieH, Bradley, Ronda, Bill, JeffS Do any of these hymns, based on their content, look like something Socrates would write? (see PDFs) We have help from the gods. Cebes' account of Socrates' position. Working from Plato's Phaedo: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg Thanks again to Barbara's amazing little recorder (SONY IC RECORDER MP3 4.3.0)!...
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Stephanos sections: 132b 132c 132d 132e 133a Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, Eldar, Yoni, JeffS Phaedo - auten -the old 'itself' or 'Self' issue how many ways (even here, in 132) does he use the idea of Self? What are the conditions necessary for the 'great doubt' to arise? Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg
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Stephanos sections: 58a 58b 62d 62e 63a 63b 63c 63d 63e 64a 64b 64c 64d 64e 65a 65b 65c 65d 65e 66a 66b 66c 66d 66e 67a 67b 67c 67d Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Nancy, Eldar, Bill, Ronda, Bradley, JeffS at 1:13:00 the dialogue leaves the Phaedo and ventures into the question of whether the distinction between "men vs philosophers" is a real distinction' (PG holds that it is not). Working from Plato's Phaedo: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Sections: 142c 142d Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Eldar Email from Barbara: Hi, Jeff The talk today included Gina, David, Eldar, Pierre and me. We listened to Gina's presentation of the Golden Mean Proportional in the Second Hypothesis. Then Pierre worked on it; we puzzled our way through it. We worked at 142C-D. Gina started by reading sections from a handout she prepared. It was pages 44-47 from Sacred Geometry Philosophy and Practice, by...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp2, golden-mean
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp6;hyp7 Sections: 160c 160d 160e 161a 164b 163e 164a Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Yoni, JulieH, JeffS Other (allos) and different (heteron) and how they are handled differently in the 6th compared to the 2nd. Other is a relational term; different is substantive in the Parmenides. I did not understand most of today's discussion so my notes are missing. :-/ As always, though, if anyone can follow it -- even the basic points, and wants to...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: plg Sections: 133c,133d Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, JulieH, Regina, Eldar, JeffS Synopsis Today we stayed with P36 (Parmenides' 36th time to speak in the prologue) in Plato's Parmenides , and went over it to better understand what Parmenides is saying. The main work we did today was to focus on one (complicated, difficult) sentence before the "master argument" is started, and try to figure out what issues that sentence foreshadows. Topics Touched On...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp1 Sections: 137c-138a (P1-P18) Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, JulieH, Regina, Bradley, Eldar, JeffS Synopsis We continue with following Pierre's worksheet (diagram 1) from last Wednesday's session . However, not remembering where we had left off at the end of Wednesday, we decide to start over again at the beginning of the 1st hypothesis, at 'P1'. Ironically, we make it to the same place we did Wednesday -- P18. Re-doing it this time, however, allows us...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp1 Sections: 139b-139d (P42-P50) Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, JulieP, Eldar, CathyW, JeffS Synopsis Pierre leads the Parmenides Morning Study Group through another morning. We are still working through the 1st hypothesis of Plato's dialogue, Parmenides , looking at the 14 arguments made there (see Pierre's diagram from 6/27 ) and noting what patterns of thinking Parmenides is using. Today we work through P42-P50 (hypothesis 1) of the...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another morning of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today Pierre jumps us ahead to book 6 to get an idea of where we are headed (currently we are really finishing up book 2) so that we can understand better why we need to understand the earlier books. We...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another morning of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read Book 3, Chapter 3 Attendees Pierre, David, Eldar, JulieH, Regina, Barbara Email letters to the group from Pierre: Letter 1 Greetings members of the circle of philosphers, In leaving the third...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read Book 6, Chapter 11. From Barbara: Long account from Gina of her grasp of the Hymn to Demeter as applying to Chapter 11 of Book 6. Followed by long reading and account from Jeff of his...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, theology-of-plato, book06, chap11, proclus, ceres, persephone
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read Book 6, Chapter 12. Before we jumped into Chapter 12, though, Barbara asked Pierre about this quote, “Moreover, the incommensurability of Pherephatta with multitude, and the terror and...
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Dialogue(s): theology-of-plato Chapters: chap04;chap05;book01 Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, Eldar, JeffS Synopsis Pierre leads our Parmenides morning study group through a reading of chapters 4 and 5 of book 1 of Proclus' Theology of Plato . More Info (*) Proclus' Theology of Plato: We are using for now the Thomas Taylor translation: Volume Eight in the Thomas Taylor series, ISBN-10: 978-1898910-077, as published by Prometheus Trust and available in the UK through them...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, theology-of-plato, proclus, book01, chap04, chap05
Dialogue(s): theology-of-plato Chapters: book01;chap11;chap12 Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, JulieH, Eldar, JeffS Synopsis Pierre leads our Parmenides morning study group through finishing up chapter 11, and all of chapter 12 of Proclus' Theology of Plato .(*) We look at the Greek in several places, and try to grasp what Proclus is doing. In the end (as with the diagram), Pierre points out that it will be our job to see if Proclus' explanation of things maps onto the 9 hypotheses of...
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Dialogue(s): theology-of-plato Chapters: book1;chap15;chap16 Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, JulieH, Eldar Synopsis Pierre leads the NS Parmenides morning study group through chapters 15 and 16 of book 1 of Proclus' Theology of Plato (*). More Info (*) Proclus' Theology of Plato (Thomas Taylor translation): Volume Eight in the Thomas Taylor series, ISBN-10: 978-1898910-077, as published by Prometheus Trust and available in the UK through them directly , or in the USA through Opening Mind...
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Synopsis Another lovely Saturday morning informal chat with Pierre. This week, we do another two dreams, one each from SteveD and JeffS. There is also some chit-chat at the beginning and end. (SteveD's dream exploration starts at 0:07:20.) Dream Texts SteveD's dream (within last week) Looking at a book-case. A very vivid, bright dream. Vividly-detailed. Everything in the dream -- I still see it! It's the top shelf of this book-case. And there are volumes of books. Little, thin volumes of books....
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read Book 5, Chapters 37-38. Barbara's Highlights PG put today's chart on Monday's. I finally asked him to draw a line under Monday's work and he did. We went into Bk 5 Ch. 37 and perhaps a third of...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read Book 5, Chapter 38. Attendees Pierre, Barbara, Regina, JulieH Credits Recording, title, and highlights: Barbara Chart Photo: Regina Original Location https://archive.org/details/20191014NSPRM...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp3 Sections: 156d-157b Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Sayon, JeffS Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg Image, Crop Circles 23 , courtesy Le Petit Poulailler on Flickr , CC BY-NC-ND 2.0
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp3 Sections: 156e-157a Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, Sayon, JeffS Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg Image, Crop Circles 02 , courtesy Le Petit Poulailler on Flickr , CC BY-NC-ND 2.0
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp4 Sections: 158a-d Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Sayon, JeffS Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp3 Sections: 155e-156e Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Bradley, Adina, JeffS Topics Covered, Audio Highlights, and Notes 00:00 Discussion (PG & Bradley) of what it is about the Zen people that causes them to avoid at all costs, the Logos. And a subset of those who break off from the main branch, because of this. 12:05 DC's question about the One's participation in Time (the 3rd) 14:21 The heart of Zen Buddhism is in the 3rd hypothesis But the...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp3 Sections: 156b,155e (P1, P8) Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Adina, Bradley, JeffS Topics Covered, Audio highlights, and Notes Not a lot of text work today. Mostly chit-chat. The session starts out with Pierre sitting at David's kitchen table looking over a book Barbara brought which was mentioned in previous sessions, on the basis of having apparently influenced a Zen person on Facebook who was in conversation with Pierre: Parmenides and the...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp3 Sections: 155e-156d Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Nancy, Bradley, Josh, Eldar, JeffS Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg
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Stephanos sections 164b-165e Barbara, David, Regina, Bradley, Eldar, Yoni, JeffS. No Pierre today, unfortunately. But good productive reading through the 8th together. Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg
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Stephanos sections 142b,d,143a,151e-152e,156d,163e,145e Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Bradley, Eldar Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg
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Stephanos sections 142b-143a Making distinctions One-Self-Being Upanishads The Three Pillars of Zen - Roshi Philip Kapleau with Yasutani Roshi Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg
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Stephanos sections: 144c,145b-e,146a-c Still Considering One Being / Whole / Many Places At Once At Regina's today (David took a break from hosting) Also a discussion at the end of "different" and "other" (again) Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Eldar, JeffS Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read Book 6, Chap 24. From Barbara: We worked on p. 464-465, the paragraph before the last! Julie H. read it then Pierre took us through it. He, of course, added a whole new way of seeing it. After...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another morning of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read Book 4 Chapters 23-25 and Book 6 Chapters 1, 2, 8. Attendees Pierre, JulieH, David, Eldar, Regina, Barbara More Info (*) Proclus' Theology of Plato (Thomas Taylor translation): Volume Eight in...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2;hyp3 Sections: 155c-156b,157a Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, JulieH, Eldar, Alex, JeffS (Using Shure headset and MX table mics again today. But much moving around, and adjusting. Mea culpa. First two minutes of audio are quite rough.) 00:30 Initial chit-chat. Re-rise of fascism, current politics, etc. 05:03 Reading of a segment of Pierre's manuscript, A Dialogue on Daydreams and Philosophical Counseling . Characters: Pierre and Lou. Regina reads Lou's...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read Book 6, Chapter 2. From Barbara: Pierre added notes to the 11-6-19 chart again, but at least that takes us to the bottom of the page. We went through Chapter 2 of Book 6, though I raised an...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Sections: 143a Barbara's note to us in email: Hi, all Today, we were discussing 143A5 about, in Juan's translation, "What if we grasp Self according to Self by the Understanding alone without this ousia of which we say it participates, would one alone, indeed come to light or is this self also many." I commented that monon was not feminine and so couldn't modify dianoia which is feminine. Rather it modified self and so added to the idea of...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another morning of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we are trying to finish up Book 2. Note: Today's diagrams are really from Monday 12/10 . All that Pierre did was write a little additionally on each of the two diagrams. I tried to highlight in yellow...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read Book 6, Chapters 19, 20, and 21. Attendees Pierre, Barbara, David, JulieH, Regina Credits Recording, title, and highlights: Barbara Chart Photo(s): JeffL, Regina Original Location...
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Stephanus sections 155e,151e,152c Pierre, Barbara, Regina, JulieH, Sayon, JeffS Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp3 Sections: 155e-156c Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg Untitled image in the public domain ( CC0 ) and downloaded on 11/11/2016 from User Unsplash on Pixabay
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hypall Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: plg Sections: 130b 130c 130d 130e 131a Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieP, Bradley 130B 130C barbara's question: what are the implications 130B can we get also from this passage a better understanding of Parmenides' understanding of Zeno's position? 130C what is the right way to speak about classes of things? how to talk about elements? are there separate ideas for these things? so what do you want to conclude in the category of an idea? and are...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read Book 6, Chapters 7 & 8. [There is a chart from today -- forthcoming.] Attendees Pierre, JeffL, David, Regina, JulieH, Barbara Credits Recording, title, and highlights: Barbara Chart...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Sections: 142b 143b 143c 143d 143e 144a Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Bradley, JeffS Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp1 Sections: 138a-c (P17-P23) Attendees: Pierre, JulieH, Barbara, Regina, Eldar, JeffS Synopsis We are still working through Pierre's 14 arguments outlined in his diagram from our 6/27 session . We finish the 'not in itself and not in another' argument and move on, starting into the 'not stationary and not moving' argument. Pierre points out that we can have the questions a) whether all (14) arguments are necessary (and not superfluous), and b) whether the...
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Dialogue(s): theology-of-plato Chapters: book01;chap11 Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, JulieH, Eldar, KevinG, JeffS Synopsis Pierre leads our Parmenides morning study group through Chapter 11 of Book 1 of Proclus' Theology of Plato .(*) More Info (*) Proclus' Theology of Plato: We are using for now the Thomas Taylor translation: Volume Eight in the Thomas Taylor series, ISBN-10: 978-1898910-077, as published by Prometheus Trust and available in the UK through them directly , or in the USA...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another morning of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. From Barbara: Today we read Book 4, Chapter 9 and the first page of Chapter 10. Pierre also explored divine progression and the need for a mean term, that the progression is accomplished through likeness....
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp3, hyp7 Sections: 156b,163b-164b Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, Ingmar, Sayon, JeffS Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg Image, Crop Circles 36 , courtesy Le Petit Poulailler on Flickr , CC BY-NC-ND 2.0
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Another great Saturday chit-chat with Pierre. Topics Covered - Midwifery with JulieH - Sayon: moving up in the world - JeffS: pot can help with insights but is it ultimately anti-anagogic? (See Pierre's book co-authored with Regina, Philosophical Midwifery: A New Paradigm for Understanding Human Problems With Its Validation , ISBN-10: 0964819112, ISBN-13: 978-0964819115, April 1998 Hyparxis Press) [I could not record video, audio only for today, because of problems with the electrical. Thanks...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp3;hyp2 Sections: 157a 142b 142c 142d Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, Eldar, Yoni, JeffS Basic Topics Discussed: - "The Logos Unfolds the Nature of the Self" - "Following the Trail of the Logos" - 142c "whereas our present hypothesis is not Self .. - Aristoteles' understanding is pretty sharp   - he knows that if the One Is, that automatically means participation in Ousia   - but he does have a problem with...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Sections: 143c 143d 144c 144d 144e 145a 145b Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, Nancy, Eldar, Bill, JeffS Beginning to 41:00 - Regina's question on couples 143c,d 41:30 to end - Discussion on whole, parts, singular, plural 144c-145b Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: plg Sections: 129a 129b 129c 129d 129e 130a 130b Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Bradley What does Parmenides find so admirable? Is it possible that if they are ideas in the Platonic sense, that everything participates in them? The use of auto Do you put the idea of 'Self' in the class of ideas? (If so, then there is a class of ideas which are not participable.) If the Self could be in a class of participable ideas, then there would be something...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Sections: 143b 143c 143d 143e Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, Nancy, Bradley, JulieP, Eldar, JeffS Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg
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